Thanks to all for your help. I replaced the plugs, filled with fuel, adjusted to idle via the stop throttle screw and I'm good to go. I still have to remove the circular air cleaner but I'll order one before I start sawing the old filter in half. The group is a wealth of knowledge and thanks for sharing it with me and others.
John Esch, Baltimore
----- Original Message -----
From: SCOTT SCHMIDT
To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Honda-C70] 1981 C70 Passport - Getting it Started..
My 82 had the round filter that might have been original as it seemed it was fused to the housing. I think i hacksawed paper filter to remove the tin coffee can end, and used tin snips to remove the actual ring around the rubber(plastic) housing part. No way it was coming apart it seemed to me also! Scott
--- On Mon, 4/25/11, myron andrews <mvandrews13@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: myron andrews <mvandrews13@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Honda-C70] 1981 C70 Passport - Getting it Started..
To: honda-c70@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 9:18 AM
John: You may need to look further down the on line manual until you get to 20-1 & beyond sections for " newer bike info". Someone correct me if I am wrong about the 20`s being 12volt bike section. Baby Huey
To: honda-c70@yahoogroups.com
From: johnesch88@sbcglobal.net
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:24:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [Honda-C70] 1981 C70 Passport - Getting it Started..
Thanks Myron,
I have the 1982 and I downloaded the 1980- 1983 (1980-83 C70 Honda
Service Manual) which shows the square air filter on section 3-4 (Pg 24).
If this is not he correct manual for the 82 could someone give me the URL.
The cover says Honda Shop Manual '80 - '82 "#NA50508111 C".
I have the round air filter and I quit trying to remove it since I didn't
want to break something. Any removal tips will be appreciated.
I have finally figured out the petcock and need to test it to see if I have
good fuel flow from both lines.
Thanks again.
John Esch, Baltimore
----- Original Message -----
From: "myron andrews" <mvandrews13@hotmail.com>
To: <honda-c70@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:35 AM
Subject: RE: [Honda-C70] 1981 C70 Passport - Getting it Started..
>
> John : Glad to hear you are solving some problems . The next thing to
> learn may be whether you have an 81 or an 82 so that you are using the
> guides at the bottom of the page for YOUR bike . 82 & newer have
> different guides for the things that are different from all older years.
> The 82 has a round air filter that I have read can be very hard to remove
> from its rubber boot . The fuel petcock has off , on or main ,& reserve.
> The handle does NOT point to your selected choice ,the small pointer in
> the center goes. And that can be wrong if someone pulled the fuel lines
> off to drain the tank & switched them by mistake when they re attached
> them . And DO make it part of your start /stop drill to turn the gas on
> with the petcock when you start & off when you stop the motor for more
> that a short time. If you leave the petcock on all the time you run the
> risk that someday the float will stick & all your gas will leak onto the
> ground ,or worse yet into the motor . Good Luck! Baby Huey
>
>
>
> To: Honda-C70@yahoogroups.com
> CC: lotusman1951@yahoo.com
> From: johnesch88@sbcglobal.net
> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:23:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Honda-C70] 1981 C70 Passport - Getting it Started..
>
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>>>I have an '82 C70 that isn't starting. I'm changing the plug today and
>>>have recharged the battery. I have fuel ruining out when I adjust the
>>>drain screw. >>My question I have two hoses coming from the gas tank
>>>running into the carb at the toggle valve switch. Should both hoses be
>>>filled with fuel? Also, >>what are the various position the valve can be
>>>in? I've looked in the manual but can't find the different positions<<
>
> The verdict is in. I was low on gas (below the regular tank fill). I put
> fuel in the tank, changed the spark plug, used some starting fluid in the
> air cleaner and the cycle runs now. I still have a problem with it
> shutting down at idle so tomorrow, weather permitting, I'm plan to adjust
> the idle speed with the throttle stop screw. The manual says a tachometer
> in necessary but, since I don't have one, can I adjust it based on
> increasing idle speed?
>
> Also, when I looked at the air cleaner ,mine is round vs. the square one
> shown in the manual. I tried to pull it out and it appears to be stuck.
> Not wanting to break it I left it alone. Is there something holding the
> airlifter in?
>
> Thanks for all your help and ideas. They gave me confidence to try the
> repairs myself.
>
> John Esch, Baltimore
>
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C70 Passport Not Running Right?
1970-73 C70 Honda Service Manual: http://tinyurl.com/6ebwtw
1970-73 C70 Troubleshooting Guide:
http://tinyurl.com/6ebwtw (scroll to sec.7.1 page 101.jpg)
1980-83 C70 Honda Service Manual: http://tinyurl.com/hu42c
1980-81 C70 Troubleshooting Guide:
http://tinyurl.com/hu42c (scroll to sec.18-1 page 170.jpg)
1982-83 C70 Troubleshooting Guide:
http://tinyurl.com/hu42c (scroll to sec. 20-28 page 205.jpg)
1980-81 C70 Maintenance Schedule: http://tinyurl.com/z4zn6
1982-83 C70 Maintenance Schedule: http://tinyurl.com/hw35c
More resources for C70 Passports and Cubs:
http://www.shlaes.com/Vehicles/Scooter.htm
http://www.velodrome.com/HondaC70/HondaC70.htmlYahoo! Groups Links
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1970-73 C70 Honda Service Manual: http://tinyurl.com/6ebwtw
1970-73 C70 Troubleshooting Guide:
http://tinyurl.com/6ebwtw (scroll to sec.7.1 page 101.jpg)
1980-83 C70 Honda Service Manual: http://tinyurl.com/hu42c
1980-81 C70 Troubleshooting Guide:
http://tinyurl.com/hu42c (scroll to sec.18-1 page 170.jpg)
1982-83 C70 Troubleshooting Guide:
http://tinyurl.com/hu42c (scroll to sec. 20-28 page 205.jpg)
1980-81 C70 Maintenance Schedule: http://tinyurl.com/z4zn6
1982-83 C70 Maintenance Schedule: http://tinyurl.com/hw35c
More resources for C70 Passports and Cubs:
http://www.shlaes.com/Vehicles/Scooter.htm
http://www.velodrome.com/HondaC70/HondaC70.html
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